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By: Kill Me Now « Saudi Jeans

Kill Me Now « Saudi Jeans — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 09:06:35 +0000

[...] of his enthusiastic fans decided to act upon this fatwa and killed somebody? What if someone from those who spoke in favor of mixing like justice minister Shaikh Mohammed al-Eisa, Shaikh Ahmed al-Ghamdi, or Shaikh Ahmed Bin Baz got [...]

By: abood089

abood089 — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:41:36 +0000

Hey ahmed
I believe that we have to listen to all of the opinions and decide for are selfs
I’m sure that they wanted to tell their real opinion like Al-Shethri but they can’t because in islam its forbidden to go against your leaders in our case our king, I don’t know if you noticed in the ceramony at KAUST, the head of ift’a(المفتي العام) al-Sheikh was sitting next to the king and some other religous heads.
So they have their opinions BUT the king has another So what would you do if you were put in that position!!
When they changed their opinions to the kings, I admired them more and more because they sacrificed their image in front of us so that they obey god Allah’s word by obeying the kings word!!

By: abood

abood — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:40:04 +0000

By: DW

DW — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:56:29 +0000

talal07 sounds familiar to me =)

what a small world talal to meet you here.. we never really had a chance to chat over msn.

By: talal

talal — Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:01:52 +0000

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By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 00:45:07 +0000

I would welcome the incisive views of The Z Theory.

By: Mohamd

Mohamd — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 09:45:11 +0000

I still see no hope for this country. religous and political leaders want us to dwell on small matters like this which will keep the population busy so they will not bother the elite.
New minister of justice and every one else who claim gender mixing is OK never went out in puplic posing with their women.

By: Chiara

Chiara — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:01:05 +0000

I hope a Saudi will answer this for you but to the best of my knowledge yes it would be verboten. ie you couldn’t in a non-compound, non-KAUST setting have a group of your single female and male classmates over for dinner, unless you were willing to take the risk that your jealous neighbour for example wouldn’t call for the religious police.

The best example to my mind would be the strict segregation of wedding celebrations: women in one room/ building, men in the other even though many of the guests would be related or even married to each other.

In the context of a mixed dinner party I think the issue is that maybe no one would make a fuss, and maybe someone would and if they did the law would be against you.

If I am wrong I hope someone will correct me on this. If I am right I hope they will give us other examples.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:32:57 +0000

Is having “mixed” guests in one’s private home legally verboten in all of Saudi?

I have been told that, while “mixing” is haraam in public, in the privacy of one’s own home there are no enforceable rules or laws about entertaining (within reasonable moral limits, of course) “mixed” guests. One might be in danger of mildly offending conservative neighbor, but not of attracting the wrath of the religious police because of a dinner party.

For my own information, please clarify. Thanks.

By: Chiara

Chiara — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:52:13 +0000

Nathan–thanks, that clarifies at least for me, and is rather standard policy on more conservative campuses, or before it was discovered that having coed undergrad residences helped the boy-men to maintain a modicum of civility rather than engaging in drunken vandalism (I exaggerate only slightly).

However, I do think that the point in Saudi would be that unless they were all married couples in your married students’quarters, ie each woman with her mahrem and one who permitted her not to cover in the presence of the mixed group, in the rest of Saudi this would be haram, verboten, not a good idea.

I hope Saudis will chime in to clarify the confusion that does seem still to reign in the sense that some on Saudi soil are more equal than others.