Yes, yes you can. You can be covered and behave immodestly. Which in fact empirically proves that dressing somebody up doesn’t make them what they look like.

It’s a great big lie, that’s what it is.

Modest people are modest. Immodest people make everything they wear immodest because of their behavior.

And when the measures to enforce national modesty goes to the point that they are practically waging a way against shades of color, then they have lost already.

It’s all completely futile and ridiculous.

in the general Islamic term, I guess modesty…
in the Saudi term, I say it stands for cultural oppression

@ adnisa: true, but its nothing compared to what women have to deal with. but two wrongs dont make a right. i understand the scholars when they speak abt fashionable abayas. i mean whats the purpose of an abayah? culture/fashion statement/religion?

IF it was not nonsense they could refute with logic.

But they cannot.

This is all completely illogical. It is NONSENSE. And what’s more, this nonsense has negative affect on many people.

When dignity is taken away like that, meanness is only to be expected.

What other reaction is there for such nonsense? Apathy? Resignation?

Change happens when enough get fed up with institutional nonsense.

Freedom of expression allows you to criticize somebody if they are wrong.

Well, you’re certainly wrong about that! Freedom of expression, gives you a right to critisize. Period. I won’t critisize you though… uhh sorry, I think I already did. xD

Somo.
You are right. There are bigger problems in Saudi Arabia. But the problems can only be dealt by people responsible for handling them. You can’t make the religious organizations responsible for providing jobs or boosting the economy. Relevant authorities will do their respective jobs.

Norvegica.
Freedom of expression allows you to criticize somebody if they are wrong. But it does not allow you to call somebody an idiot or his/her opinion as nonsense. We do not have the right to be mean to anybody.