make that three walls (including me) :D

Look in the mirror. Seriously…. look in the mirror.

>Yes you tell us to “stop barking like a dog”, >call us lazy, slave owners, have a bullshit >attitude and even called me a kaffir for being >nationalistic.
1. When you complain about foreigners then you are barking
2. Lazy is a most apt description…. Shall I give you documentation or will you accept what is right in your fact?
3. Your attitude towards foreigners is BS, yes
4. I didn’t call you a kaffir for being nationalist. PROPHET MUHAMMAD (S) said that ‘asabiyyah is KUFR. You have no right to criticize me for referencing him in its proper context. YOU need to change that attitude.

>While you didn’t write “ignorant barbarian” you >surely meant it. The only hater here is you.

Nah, I merely responded to the hate. If someone speaks to me in English, you think it would make sense for me to respond in German? Someone speaks the language of hate, so I respond in the language that he understands

>And look, you don’t like the country, then >leave. No one put shackles on people from >the Indian subcontinent and forced them to >work in Saudi Arabia, they all came here >willingly and now that’s it’s been 30 odd >something years they should know what to >expect but they still keep on coming.

Actually the problem is that they DO NOT know what to expect.

Beaten, Locked Up for Refusing to Be a Maid
Ebtihal Mubarak & Ronald Concha, Arab News

Guest Worker May Lose Digits, Toes After Being Tied Up in Bathroom for a Month
Hassan Adawi, Arab News

Expat not allowed to attend mom’s funeral
Hassna’a Mokhtar | Arab News

Abuse of Authority
Bushra Faisal Al-Sebaei • Okaz
….In yet another incident, the commission arrested 38 Saudi employees of a shopping center in Riyadh and then chained and beat them.

Philippine Embassy Seeks Custody of Two Abused OFWs
Arab News
JEDDAH, 20 July 2005 — The Philippine Embassy in Riyadh said yesterday it wants to take custody of two Filipino women workers who have accused their sponsors of severely beating them up.

Police arrest impersonators robbing expats
Yousuf Muhammad | Arab News

http://arabnews.com/?page=17&section=21&d=30&m=7&y=2008&mode=dynamic&sectionlist=no&pix=interact.jpg&category=Interact
Murder of workers
It is sad to learn that an Indian worker, who had gone to the help of a colleague who was being assaulted by his supervisor for a minor lapse, was beaten mercilessly and has died later after 11 days in hospital.

Let me repeat what you just wrote….

>And look, you don’t like the country, then >leave.

Once again, the same idiot (you will accuse me of calling you an idiot, I am saying YES you are) racist

>No one put shackles on people from the >Indian subcontinent and forced them to work >in Saudi Arabia, they all came here willingly

They were lied to and deceived, and once they get here they are in SLAVE conditions where it is extremely difficult to leave. So YEAH it is slavery.

>and now that’s it’s been 30 odd something >years they should know what to expect but >they still keep on coming.

abuse, lack of payment and injustice

>Also, the have started Saudization of maids >services and besides.

Unless you provide documentation, It is ANECDOTAL rants. Prove me wrong. Show me the money.

>Also stop using anecdotal evidence. It makes >your entries seems like rants instead of >debates.

>Also, you are crazy if you think all Universities >give out stipends.

I didn’t say that. I said Universities for students who are earning ADVANCED DEGREES (PhDs) give stipends. If I didn’t make that clear then my bad.

It seems that the whole point of your argument is your total distaste for Saudi Arabia, and its people. So may I add my voice to Mohammed and gently tell you if you don’t like here, there is something called “exit only visa” get one, and a one way ticket home. Problem solved.

Kennedy greatly increased funding for Education and economic aid (ie “handouts”) to rural regions as well as the first president to spend over 100 billion dollars.

Also, he’s a democrat: The party of handouts.

While you didn’t write “ignorant barbarian” you surely meant it. The only hater here is you.

And look, you don’t like the country, then leave. No one put shackles on people from the Indian subcontinent and forced them to work in Saudi Arabia, they all came here willingly and now that’s it’s been 30 odd something years they should know what to expect but they still keep on coming.

Also, the have started Saudization of maids services and besides.

Also stop using anecdotal evidence. It makes your entries seems like rants instead of debates.

Also, you are crazy if you think all Universities give out stipends. Most people around the world save up for university when their children are born! Most university graduates pay off the loans used to pay for their higher education for years after they graduate so I don’t know where this bullshit idea that all Universities give stipends comes from.