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By: Boring Drama, Happy Endings « Saudi Jeans

Boring Drama, Happy Endings « Saudi Jeans — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:14:49 +0000

[...] So what does this mean to the country? Khalid al-Dakhil, former political sociology professor at KSU, thinks it is giant step for the Saudi society. “(It shows) the erosion of the religious establishment’s influence, who realized they have to concede,” he told Reuters. I’m not sure that I agree with him on describing this step as “giant” but it certainly indicates the changes taking place in the country. Will 2009 see the official opening of the first proper movie theater in Saudi Arabia? I won’t bet on it, not just because betting is illegal here, but also because living in this place teaches you not to hold your breath when it comes to change. [...]

By: Lucky

Lucky — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:10:22 +0000

I a law criminalizing sexual harassment is long overdue and those who believe the issue is not pressing is not living in today’s society. It is sad that some women are opposing such a law, and due to women like this all other women will face more obstacles in achieving gender equality. In response to the issues of gender equality and sexual harassment, I have started a non-profit organization, which focuses on women’s rights in education and employment with an emphasis on sexual harassment. Although, the organization largely focuses on women’s rights, it also recognizes that men face sexual harassment daily so we also seek to provide aid and support to all those who have experienced sexual harassment. This means both men and women. No discrimination here. This project is in the beginning stages and I have just created a Facebook page so I invite everyone to come join my group on Facebook (Group Name Speak Up! Speak Out! — http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=37558609042). Come be a one of the first members of this admirable group and help support those who have spoken up for their rights and spoken out against those who seek to deny them their constitutional rights!

By: Sama

Sama — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:33:49 +0000

ok I jus had a mini stab in the heart when I read that some women oppose it! :’(

I just hope we’re that we’re moving in the right direction, coz it would really suck if that turtle had 2 go allll the way bk and then start in the right direction.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 14:21:02 +0000

The Z Theory has it just right.

However, I would also add the note that a law prohibiting sexual discrimination, like all laws in effect, must be examined through the lens of application as well as theory.

The judges that would apply the law must be considered.

As such, I would argue that the lamentable process of judicial selection and judicial training would most likely render the effects of any such law to be nugatory.

We must fix not just the laws, and the system of laws, but ALSO all those that apply the laws — judges and prosecutors.

I would welcome hearing more about reforms to judicial and prosecutorial training. Such reforms must be extremely deep and pervasive in order to be effective.

By: The Z Theory

The Z Theory — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 23:17:16 +0000

I agree Ahmed that Shoura is a sterile entity, but not a useless one. It serves a minute benefit in underlining (although not solving) key issues in the society. “not every difficulty faced is solved; but no difficulty is solved until faced”
As for Mr. Baleelah’s proposal, I believe it is a step in the right direction towards addressing the problems of segregation in the work place, and undermining the other 50% of the nation’s work force and future; i.e. Saudi women. Although, policy wise, I think he was too hasty in his response that “mixing is a reality” as it will probably distance the proposal from any material support.

By: Broke Saudi

Broke Saudi — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:54:05 +0000

That’s face palm worthy.

By: RaWaN ...

RaWaN ... — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:01:02 +0000

totally agree with magicrealism !!

By: Krystal Bell

Krystal Bell — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:50:33 +0000

I would like it to come to suface about all the affairs going on at work places between the sexes.And what takes place at the bars and the rooms at the hotels where the co-workers of the opposite sexes stay at ,on all those buisness trips that they take together.And if it is a indeed a fact that men and women that work together are having sex.And what is the truth about how that affecs the work atomsphere when the romantic relationships brake up or there is break-up of marriages because of these entangelments between co-workers of opposite sexes.

I know,personally that when I am not getting along wit my co-workers ,that it affects the atomphsphere in the workplace.So let’s,for an example, say that I caused a break-up in a marriage of one of the man that worked in my office.How will my female co-workers view me? A.)I could be seen as a threat to them and their romantic relationships, if I was using my seductive charms on the men in the office? B.)I could be a good model for them to follow.

And how do managers feel about romantic relationships beteen the co-workers of the oppisite sexes?Jealousy for instance can raise it’s ugly head.And we know all about jealousy when it comes to the passion of the heart.It can even lead to murder.

With all the businesses going under now.It would not hurt to examine what is going on at work places that lead to destruction.

Another thing do businessmen take sex tours to Malmo,Sweden?And if they do,does like a whole company of co-workers do it together?

By: magicrealism

magicrealism — Sat, 06 Dec 2008 18:28:37 +0000

women are hard on women. That’s a fact