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	<title>Comments on: Jazz Night in Riyadh</title>
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		<title>By: The Diplomatic Cables, Saudi Edition (1) &#171; Saudi Jeans</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-24399</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Diplomatic Cables, Saudi Edition (1) &#171; Saudi Jeans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in Riyadh I used to attend some of the cultural events organized by the US Embassy there like music concerts. But the cable says that &#8220;Large-scale performances of musical groups can be difficult, given [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in Riyadh I used to attend some of the cultural events organized by the US Embassy there like music concerts. But the cable says that &#8220;Large-scale performances of musical groups can be difficult, given [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Links &#171; Saudi Jeans</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-20924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s Links &#171; Saudi Jeans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] concerts are rare in this country. Music concerts in universities are super rare. But hey, what do you know? Jeddah Legends, the band [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] concerts are rare in this country. Music concerts in universities are super rare. But hey, what do you know? Jeddah Legends, the band [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ahmed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you all guys for taking part in this conversation but I’m sorry I will shut down comments on this post because they have gone way off-topic. All I wanted to do is sharing a slice of my life in this city with readers; it’s not about the permissibility of music and it’s not about a possible link between live concerts and democracy. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you all guys for taking part in this conversation but I’m sorry I will shut down comments on this post because they have gone way off-topic. All I wanted to do is sharing a slice of my life in this city with readers; it’s not about the permissibility of music and it’s not about a possible link between live concerts and democracy. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: George AlQuahtani</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George AlQuahtani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[الله يردك إليه رداً جميلا أو أن يحشرك معهم.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>الله يردك إليه رداً جميلا أو أن يحشرك معهم.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muhammad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TO UZI:

  Yes I&#039;m familiar with these fatwas and their explanations. I could give you you books to why it also might be halal.... it&#039;s their interpretation versus others. Music has a low level of importance compared to the more REAL issues that are affecting us today. Lets start with the basics then reach the specifics :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO UZI:</p>
<p>  Yes I&#8217;m familiar with these fatwas and their explanations. I could give you you books to why it also might be halal&#8230;. it&#8217;s their interpretation versus others. Music has a low level of importance compared to the more REAL issues that are affecting us today. Lets start with the basics then reach the specifics :)</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13215</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abdullah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on guys, please this is not a place for preaching. People can&#039;t careless if you think music is halal or haram!
I believe there are more people watching Rotana than those watching the Iqra&#039;a channel!! So find a better way to reach to them, other than saying they are totally evil... :)

Btw SaudiJeans, I am sorry to say this but I wasn&#039;t sure what to make of your post! If you are only sharing or making a point...
At first I thought you were sharing that:
- You are fond of live music.
- You were one of the lucky few selected to see a jazz band play.
- You want to see coed concerts all over Saudi.
But afterwards I thought you have definitely made a few points:
- Live music is the cornerstone of democracy.
- A society with no live music is doomed.

However, you kept me wondering what is a Constitutional Democratic Saudi Arabia?
With your strong association to live music, I couldn&#039;t help it think, it is merely a state where live music is permitted!!
Excuse my simple mind... :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on guys, please this is not a place for preaching. People can&#8217;t careless if you think music is halal or haram!<br />
I believe there are more people watching Rotana than those watching the Iqra&#8217;a channel!! So find a better way to reach to them, other than saying they are totally evil&#8230; :)</p>
<p>Btw SaudiJeans, I am sorry to say this but I wasn&#8217;t sure what to make of your post! If you are only sharing or making a point&#8230;<br />
At first I thought you were sharing that:<br />
- You are fond of live music.<br />
- You were one of the lucky few selected to see a jazz band play.<br />
- You want to see coed concerts all over Saudi.<br />
But afterwards I thought you have definitely made a few points:<br />
- Live music is the cornerstone of democracy.<br />
- A society with no live music is doomed.</p>
<p>However, you kept me wondering what is a Constitutional Democratic Saudi Arabia?<br />
With your strong association to live music, I couldn&#8217;t help it think, it is merely a state where live music is permitted!!<br />
Excuse my simple mind&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Su...t...ta</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13214</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Su...t...ta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AAFKE 
WHICH SECT DO U FOLLOW...............
ISLAM IS BASED ON THE HOLY QURAN AND HADITHS...............WHY DO U KEEP POPPING UP THE SAME QUESTION AND REFER ONLY TO THE HOLY QRAN?
Hey and i believe im being blocked from this site due to unknown reasons...........im sure noone who tries to spread the word to the world about ksa,will have a problem  about freedom of speech....i have to change these nicks a thousand times just to post........................]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAFKE<br />
WHICH SECT DO U FOLLOW&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
ISLAM IS BASED ON THE HOLY QURAN AND HADITHS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;WHY DO U KEEP POPPING UP THE SAME QUESTION AND REFER ONLY TO THE HOLY QRAN?<br />
Hey and i believe im being blocked from this site due to unknown reasons&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..im sure noone who tries to spread the word to the world about ksa,will have a problem  about freedom of speech&#8230;.i have to change these nicks a thousand times just to post&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: uzi</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=101172&amp;ln=eng&amp;txt=music%20haraam%20flutes
Thats for muhammed]]></description>
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Thats for muhammed</p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Muhammad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To AbuJamal:

You mean to tell me that somehow you (considered an outside observer) infiltrated the Saudi youth in a way that I (inside this Saudi youth group) have never seen? Yes that is ridiculous, considering you have no proof or anything to back up your strong statements :) 

  In your second point you said &quot;I never said most Saudis did anything&quot;, again let me refresh your memory and give you the quote that you said previously which is &quot;I have prayed in many masajid in Saudi Arabia and only the Imam is Saudi. While the shabab are outside listening to music dressed in a style of clothing favored by homosexuals.&quot;. Now when you use the term &quot;many&quot; that means that this behavior you&#039;ve observed is overwhelmingly rampant in Saudi. So yes you did say that.

But I guess you seem to enjoy grouping the following words together &quot;Music&quot;, &quot;Homosexuals&quot;, and &quot;Saudi youth&quot;. As to paint a false generalization of how our youth have become such low-life spoiled beings.

 But you&#039;re not done yet, you say the following &quot;I listened to the youth and they do not want to lead the Islamic world they want to join the Arab world. They want to connect with other Arabs khaleeji and non-khaleeji Arabs.&quot; so absurd that I won&#039;t even reply except with this simple suggestion, that you listen to yourself before writing comments that discredit you :)

I&#039;ll agree with you that some scholars in Saudi Arabia have a hard stance concerning different views on music, which was our original topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To AbuJamal:</p>
<p>You mean to tell me that somehow you (considered an outside observer) infiltrated the Saudi youth in a way that I (inside this Saudi youth group) have never seen? Yes that is ridiculous, considering you have no proof or anything to back up your strong statements :) </p>
<p>  In your second point you said &#8220;I never said most Saudis did anything&#8221;, again let me refresh your memory and give you the quote that you said previously which is &#8220;I have prayed in many masajid in Saudi Arabia and only the Imam is Saudi. While the shabab are outside listening to music dressed in a style of clothing favored by homosexuals.&#8221;. Now when you use the term &#8220;many&#8221; that means that this behavior you&#8217;ve observed is overwhelmingly rampant in Saudi. So yes you did say that.</p>
<p>But I guess you seem to enjoy grouping the following words together &#8220;Music&#8221;, &#8220;Homosexuals&#8221;, and &#8220;Saudi youth&#8221;. As to paint a false generalization of how our youth have become such low-life spoiled beings.</p>
<p> But you&#8217;re not done yet, you say the following &#8220;I listened to the youth and they do not want to lead the Islamic world they want to join the Arab world. They want to connect with other Arabs khaleeji and non-khaleeji Arabs.&#8221; so absurd that I won&#8217;t even reply except with this simple suggestion, that you listen to yourself before writing comments that discredit you :)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll agree with you that some scholars in Saudi Arabia have a hard stance concerning different views on music, which was our original topic.</p>
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		<title>By: AbuJamal</title>
		<link>http://saudijeans.org/2008/03/04/jazz-night-in-riyadh/#comment-13207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AbuJamal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Muhammed if I said something you never heard or seen, it does not make it ridiculous you just know nothing about it. Yes some asians who work on farms have their own Imams and are away from Saudis. I am American not Asian and I lived in a regular neighborhood not some western compound. I never said most Saudis did anything. I said I have been to many masajid where only the Imam was a Saudi. It is not hot all year around in Saudi Arabia. What is ridiculous if you think the youth wear thowbs everyday all year long. I listened to the youth and they do not want to lead the Islamic world they want to join the Arab world. They want to connect with other Arabs khaleeji and non-khaleeji Arabs. About the Ijtihad you were talking about. You know as well as I do the scholars in Saudi Arabia could care less about any scholars saying music is permissable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muhammed if I said something you never heard or seen, it does not make it ridiculous you just know nothing about it. Yes some asians who work on farms have their own Imams and are away from Saudis. I am American not Asian and I lived in a regular neighborhood not some western compound. I never said most Saudis did anything. I said I have been to many masajid where only the Imam was a Saudi. It is not hot all year around in Saudi Arabia. What is ridiculous if you think the youth wear thowbs everyday all year long. I listened to the youth and they do not want to lead the Islamic world they want to join the Arab world. They want to connect with other Arabs khaleeji and non-khaleeji Arabs. About the Ijtihad you were talking about. You know as well as I do the scholars in Saudi Arabia could care less about any scholars saying music is permissable.</p>
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