Comments on: The Kingdom of (in)humanity http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/ Rants and Raves from Saudi Arabia Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: crystal http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13206 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:23:11 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13206 The saudis are woman hating to a horrific degree. The blatant abuse of their human rights is an afront to civilisation and humanity. If a woman cannot have more than one husband then nor should a man. If a woman cannot choose her own destiny then nor should a man have that right. They are equal. It is proven that woman is the “default” sex. All embryos start gestation as female.She is the one that gives life. Her birth is imperative for the human race to continue. You can have one male but need many females for our race to survive. Is it jealousy that makes some societies hate women so much? Lastly, why would God hate his own creation so much that he would demand the utter degradation of women? Think.

]]> By: AbuJamal http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13171 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:41:26 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13171 Aafke learn Arabic for yourself and do not rely on friends. Now as far as the restrictions. The rulers of Saudi Arabia are in a bad position. The population looks the same to an outsider but is very diverse. The rulers must balance between religious conservatives, tribal conservatives, westernized elites, liberals, non-religious people, Bedu, shia minorities etc. Because it is the birthplace of Islam everything is colored by religion. As a Muslim I have no problem with that but if you want to be what is considered normal today life will suck for you. I enjoyed my years there. I also reconize I have no need or desire to drink alcohol, go to a movie, have a girlfriend, smoke hash or go to a music concert. Some of my former students had a lust for these things and they suffered for it. Reform in Saudi Arabia is needed but because of cultural / tribal reasons, status as the home of the Haramayn: this reform will be painful and difficult.

]]> By: Aafke http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13170 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:24:47 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13170 But that’s the point isn’t it? All these restrictions are, as far as I can see, an innovation, and not called for by the quran
I luckily have friends who dó speak arabic, and help me, and point out the best translations to me.

]]> By: AbuJamal http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13160 Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:01:01 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13160 Could you people please stop confusing Najdi culture and tribalism with Islam. I expect it from non-Muslims but from Muslims too is a little troubling. Aafke Islam beyond the basic level is hindered without the Arabic language. The real Arabic not the Arabic of the Arabs we all know and love.

]]> By: sutta http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13010 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:01:52 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13010 inshahlah

]]> By: Aafke http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13008 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:48:56 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13008 Sutta: fair enough: one day I will have read everything, and then I’ll be back at you!

]]> By: sutta http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13004 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:41:16 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13004 Do plz remember…that the Holy Quran is the guideline ,the hadiths r the explanations.Even the method of prayin is not mentioned in the Holy quran ,so likewise for non mahram ruling u need to go to the hadith my friend.
peace and salaamz

]]> By: sutta http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13002 Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:01:13 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13002 Well if Allah has gifted u with the kind of freedom of thought that u think u possess and if u think u have enough knwledge of the thousands of hadith and know the comprehension of the holy Quran and fiqh and in their light u can came to the above conclusion that there is no restriction………..Welll why dont u issue a fatwa then…….But if u dont have that knowlege and r nowhere near that state then all i can say is follow a scholar or at least review the reasons of rulings from different scholars
peace.

]]> By: Aafke http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-13000 Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:33:59 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-13000 Sutta, thank you for providing those links.
There are scholars and scholars, I much prefer the scholars at Islam Today.

And I also have the top-grade-heavy-duty-brain God has been so kind as to put into my skull. I insist on being allowed to use it too, for reading and making up my own mind.

The Qur’an doesn’t mention veiling/niqab as such, at least not the translation I have. Or at least I haven’t come across it. Neither can I make out that women aren’t allowed about on their own, or can’t drive themselves about, using what ever kind of transportation is convenient.
Neither that they can’t conduct business.

]]> By: sutta http://saudijeans.org/2008/02/10/the-kingdom-of-inhumanity/#comment-12988 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:02:10 +0000 http://saudijeans.wordpress.com/?p=1641#comment-12988 http://islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=2198&ln=eng&txt=business%20woman

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